Forgive is a powerful word that evokes the act of pardoning someone, excusing someone from blame or fault, and letting go of anger or resentment towards them. However, there are many antonyms or opposite words of forgive that convey the opposite meaning. Some of these words are condemn, accuse, blame, punish, reprimand, retaliate, hold a grudge, and seek revenge. These antonyms evoke feelings of condemnation, accusation, punishment, retaliation, and bitterness towards someone. The opposite of forgiveness is often associated with negative emotions and actions that can prolong conflict and suffering. Therefore, practicing forgiveness is essential for personal growth, inner peace, and healthy relationships.

What are the antonyms for Forgive?

• n.

  • forgive
  • censure
  ,
  • punish
  .

• v.

  • avenge
  • Retribute
  ,
  • Venge
  ,
  • came back at
  ,
  • come back at
  ,
  • comes back at
  ,
  • coming back at
  ,
  • even score
  ,
  • evened score
  ,
  • evened the score
  ,
  • evening score
  ,
  • evens the score
  ,
  • paybacked
  ,
  • paybacking
  ,
  • re dress
  ,
  • re dresses
  ,
  • re dressing
  ,
  • re tribute
  ,
  • re tributes
  ,
  • re-dress
  ,
  • re-dressed
  ,
  • re-dresses
  ,
  • re-dressing
  ,
  • re-tribute
  ,
  • retributed
  ,
  • retributes
  ,
  • retributing
  ,
  • stick it to
  ,
  • stick to
  ,
  • sticked it to
  ,
  • sticked to
  ,
  • sticking to
  ,
  • sticks it to
  ,
  • sticks to
  ,
  • stuck it to
  ,
  • stuck to
  ,
  • take satisfaction
  ,
  • take vengeance
  ,
  • takes satisfaction
  ,
  • takes vengeance
  ,
  • taking satisfaction
  ,
  • taking vengeance
  ,
  • venged
  ,
  • venges
  ,
  • venging
  .
  • beat, punish, often physically
  • scourge
  .
  • berate
  • objurgate
  .
  • blame, scold
  • reprimand
  .
  • castigate
  • Caned
  ,
  • Disciplining
  ,
  • Reamed
  ,
  • be rate
  ,
  • be rated
  ,
  • be rates
  ,
  • be rating
  ,
  • be-rate
  ,
  • be-rated
  ,
  • be-rates
  ,
  • be-rating
  ,
  • blistered
  ,
  • caning
  ,
  • disciplined
  ,
  • drag over coals
  ,
  • drag over the coals
  ,
  • dragged over coals
  ,
  • dragged over the coals
  ,
  • dragging over coals
  ,
  • dragging over the coals
  ,
  • drags over coals
  ,
  • drags over the coals
  ,
  • jump down one throat
  ,
  • jump down one's throat
  ,
  • jump down throat
  ,
  • jumped down one's throat
  ,
  • jumped down ones throat
  ,
  • jumped down throat
  ,
  • jumping down one throat
  ,
  • jumping down ones throat
  ,
  • jumping down throat
  ,
  • jumps down one throat
  ,
  • jumps down one's throat
  ,
  • jumps down ones throat
  ,
  • jumps down throat
  ,
  • lean on
  ,
  • leaned on
  ,
  • leaning on
  ,
  • leans on
  ,
  • leant on
  ,
  • read riot act
  ,
  • read the riot act
  ,
  • reading riot act
  ,
  • reading the riot act
  ,
  • reads riot act
  ,
  • tongue lash
  ,
  • tongue lashed
  ,
  • tongue lashes
  ,
  • tongue lashing
  ,
  • tongue-lash
  ,
  • tongue-lashed
  ,
  • tongue-lashes
  ,
  • tonguelash
  ,
  • tonguelashed
  ,
  • tonguelashes
  ,
  • tonguelashing
  .
  • censure
  • Animadverted
  ,
  • Animadverting
  ,
  • animadvert
  ,
  • animadverts
  ,
  • carp at
  ,
  • carped at
  ,
  • carping at
  ,
  • carps at
  ,
  • dis approve
  ,
  • dis approved
  ,
  • dis approves
  ,
  • dis approving
  ,
  • dis-approve
  ,
  • dis-approved
  ,
  • dis-approves
  ,
  • dis-approving
  ,
  • ex probate
  ,
  • ex probated
  ,
  • ex probates
  ,
  • ex probating
  ,
  • ex-probate
  ,
  • ex-probated
  ,
  • ex-probates
  ,
  • ex-probating
  ,
  • exprobate
  ,
  • exprobated
  ,
  • exprobates
  ,
  • exprobating
  ,
  • find fault with
  ,
  • finding fault with
  ,
  • finds fault with
  ,
  • found fault with
  ,
  • gat after
  ,
  • get after
  ,
  • gets after
  ,
  • getting after
  ,
  • got after
  ,
  • gotten after
  ,
  • in criminate
  ,
  • in criminates
  ,
  • in criminating
  ,
  • in-criminate
  ,
  • in-criminated
  ,
  • in-criminates
  ,
  • in-criminating
  ,
  • look askance
  ,
  • looked askance
  ,
  • looks askance
  ,
  • picked apart
  ,
  • picking apart
  ,
  • picks apart
  ,
  • pull apart
  ,
  • pulled apart
  ,
  • pulling apart
  ,
  • pulls apart
  ,
  • re buff
  ,
  • re buffed
  ,
  • re buffing
  ,
  • re buffs
  ,
  • re prove
  ,
  • re proved
  ,
  • re proves
  ,
  • re-buffed
  ,
  • re-buffing
  ,
  • re-buffs
  ,
  • re-prove
  ,
  • re-proved
  ,
  • re-proves
  ,
  • re-proving
  ,
  • read out
  ,
  • reading out
  ,
  • reads out
  ,
  • take task
  ,
  • take to task
  ,
  • takes task
  ,
  • takes to task
  ,
  • taking task
  ,
  • taking to task
  ,
  • tare apart
  ,
  • tears apart
  ,
  • took to task
  ,
  • tore apart
  ,
  • torn apart
  .
  • chasten
  • call down
  ,
  • called down
  ,
  • calling down
  ,
  • calls down
  ,
  • co wed
  ,
  • co wing
  ,
  • co-wed
  ,
  • co-wing
  ,
  • fulminated against
  ,
  • fulminating against
  ,
  • had carpet
  ,
  • had on carpet
  ,
  • had the carpet
  ,
  • haddest carpet
  ,
  • haddest on carpet
  ,
  • haddest on the carpet
  ,
  • haddest the carpet
  ,
  • hadst carpet
  ,
  • hadst on carpet
  ,
  • hadst on the carpet
  ,
  • hadst the carpet
  ,
  • has on carpet
  ,
  • has on the carpet
  ,
  • has the carpet
  ,
  • hast carpet
  ,
  • hast on carpet
  ,
  • hast on the carpet
  ,
  • hast the carpet
  ,
  • hath carpet
  ,
  • hath on carpet
  ,
  • hath on the carpet
  ,
  • hath the carpet
  ,
  • have on carpet
  ,
  • have on the carpet
  ,
  • having on carpet
  ,
  • having the carpet
  ,
  • rake over coals
  ,
  • re press
  ,
  • re pressed
  ,
  • re presses
  ,
  • re pressing
  ,
  • re strain
  ,
  • re strained
  ,
  • re straining
  ,
  • re strains
  ,
  • re-presses
  ,
  • re-pressing
  ,
  • re-strain
  ,
  • re-strained
  ,
  • re-straining
  ,
  • re-strains
  ,
  • sub due
  ,
  • sub dues
  ,
  • sub-due
  ,
  • sub-dues
  .
  • chastise
  • Feruled
  ,
  • Feruling
  ,
  • Skelp
  ,
  • climb all over
  ,
  • climb over
  ,
  • climbed all over
  ,
  • climbed over
  ,
  • climbing all over
  ,
  • climbing over
  ,
  • climbs all over
  ,
  • climbs over
  ,
  • ferruled
  ,
  • ferule
  ,
  • ferules
  ,
  • lay in to
  ,
  • skelped
  ,
  • skelping
  ,
  • skelps
  ,
  • slap down
  ,
  • slapped down
  ,
  • slapping down
  ,
  • slaps down
  .
  • compensate, give in return
  • requite
  .
  • correct, humiliate
  • chasten
  .
  • criticize
  • Denunciate
  ,
  • Fustigate
  ,
  • Reprobated
  ,
  • Reprobating
  ,
  • Trashed
  ,
  • animadvert on
  ,
  • animadverted on
  ,
  • animadverting on
  ,
  • animadverts on
  ,
  • cut bits
  ,
  • cut to bits
  ,
  • cuts bits
  ,
  • cuts to bits
  ,
  • cutting bits
  ,
  • cutting to bits
  ,
  • denunciated
  ,
  • denunciates
  ,
  • denunciating
  ,
  • did a number on
  ,
  • did number on
  ,
  • didst a number on
  ,
  • didst number on
  ,
  • do number on
  ,
  • does a number on
  ,
  • does number on
  ,
  • doest a number on
  ,
  • doest number on
  ,
  • doeth a number on
  ,
  • doeth number on
  ,
  • doing a number on
  ,
  • doing number on
  ,
  • dost a number on
  ,
  • dost number on
  ,
  • doth a number on
  ,
  • doth number on
  ,
  • finds fault
  ,
  • fluffed
  ,
  • fluffing
  ,
  • found fault
  ,
  • fustigated
  ,
  • fustigates
  ,
  • give bad press
  ,
  • gives bad press
  ,
  • giving bad press
  ,
  • jump on
  ,
  • jumping on
  ,
  • jumps on
  ,
  • nagged at
  ,
  • nags at
  ,
  • nit pick
  ,
  • nit picked
  ,
  • nit picking
  ,
  • nit picks
  ,
  • nit-pick
  ,
  • nit-picked
  ,
  • nit-picking
  ,
  • nit-picks
  ,
  • re probate
  ,
  • re probating
  ,
  • re-probate
  ,
  • re-probated
  ,
  • re-probates
  ,
  • skin alive
  ,
  • skinned alive
  ,
  • skinning alive
  ,
  • skins alive
  .
  • criticize severely
  • castigate
  .
  • disapprove, judge as bad
  • criticize
  .
  • discipline, chastise
  • correct
  .
  • get even with someone
  • retaliate
  .
  • get even; obtain restitution for past injustice
  • repay
  .
  • grudge
  • am reluctant
  ,
  • am stingy
  ,
  • are reluctant
  ,
  • are stingy
  ,
  • art reluctant
  ,
  • art stingy
  ,
  • be grudge
  ,
  • be grudged
  ,
  • be grudges
  ,
  • be grudging
  ,
  • be reluctant
  ,
  • be stingy
  ,
  • be-grudge
  ,
  • be-grudged
  ,
  • be-grudges
  ,
  • be-grudging
  ,
  • being reluctant
  ,
  • being stingy
  ,
  • grudge
  ,
  • is reluctant
  ,
  • is stingy
  ,
  • re fuse
  ,
  • re fused
  ,
  • re fuses
  ,
  • re fusing
  ,
  • re sent
  ,
  • re sents
  ,
  • re-fuse
  ,
  • re-fused
  ,
  • re-sent
  ,
  • re-sents
  ,
  • was reluctant
  ,
  • was stingy
  ,
  • wast reluctant
  ,
  • were reluctant
  ,
  • were stingy
  ,
  • wert reluctant
  ,
  • wert stingy
  .
  • noun
  • abhor
  ,
  • abominate
  ,
  • bind
  ,
  • compel
  ,
  • condemn
  ,
  • convict
  ,
  • despise
  ,
  • detest
  ,
  • discipline
  ,
  • dislike
  ,
  • execrate
  ,
  • hate
  ,
  • heed
  ,
  • impeach
  ,
  • inculpate
  ,
  • loathe
  ,
  • mark
  ,
  • mind
  ,
  • note
  ,
  • object
  ,
  • obligate
  ,
  • oblige
  ,
  • penalize
  ,
  • redress
  ,
  • resent
  ,
  • revenge
  .
  • objurgate
  • gave one hell
  ,
  • give hell
  ,
  • give one hell
  ,
  • gives one hell
  ,
  • giving hell
  ,
  • giving one hell
  ,
  • jump over
  ,
  • jumped over
  ,
  • jumping all over
  ,
  • jumping over
  ,
  • jumps all over
  ,
  • jumps over
  .
  • penalize
  • hit with
  ,
  • hits with
  ,
  • hitting with
  ,
  • impose penalty
  ,
  • imposed penalty
  ,
  • imposes penalty
  ,
  • imposing penalty
  ,
  • inflict handicap
  ,
  • inflicted handicap
  ,
  • inflicting handicap
  ,
  • inflicts handicap
  ,
  • put at disadvantage
  ,
  • put disadvantage
  ,
  • puts at disadvantage
  ,
  • puts disadvantage
  ,
  • putting at disadvantage
  ,
  • putting disadvantage
  ,
  • slap with
  ,
  • slapped with
  ,
  • slapping with
  ,
  • slaps with
  ,
  • threw book at
  ,
  • threw the book at
  ,
  • throw book at
  ,
  • throw the book at
  ,
  • throwing book at
  ,
  • throwing the book at
  ,
  • throws book at
  ,
  • throws the book at
  .
  • repay
  • Re-turn
  ,
  • get revenge
  ,
  • gets revenge
  ,
  • got revenge
  ,
  • gotten revenge
  ,
  • made reprisal
  ,
  • make reprisal
  ,
  • makes reprisal
  ,
  • making reprisal
  ,
  • paid back
  ,
  • pay back
  ,
  • payed back
  ,
  • paying back
  ,
  • re paid
  ,
  • re pay
  ,
  • re paying
  ,
  • re pays
  ,
  • re turn
  ,
  • re turning
  ,
  • re turns
  ,
  • re-paid
  ,
  • re-pay
  ,
  • re-paying
  ,
  • re-pays
  ,
  • re-turned
  ,
  • re-turning
  ,
  • re-turns
  ,
  • return compliment
  ,
  • return the compliment
  ,
  • returned compliment
  ,
  • returning compliment
  ,
  • returning the compliment
  ,
  • returns compliment
  ,
  • settle the score
  ,
  • settled score
  ,
  • settled the score
  ,
  • settles the score
  ,
  • settling score
  ,
  • settling the score
  ,
  • square accounts
  ,
  • squared accounts
  ,
  • squares accounts
  .
  • reprimand
  • Lessoned
  ,
  • Lessoning
  ,
  • call carpet
  ,
  • call on carpet
  ,
  • call on the carpet
  ,
  • call the carpet
  ,
  • called carpet
  ,
  • called on carpet
  ,
  • called on the carpet
  ,
  • called the carpet
  ,
  • calling carpet
  ,
  • calling on carpet
  ,
  • calling on the carpet
  ,
  • calling the carpet
  ,
  • calls carpet
  ,
  • calls on carpet
  ,
  • calls on the carpet
  ,
  • calls the carpet
  ,
  • gave dickens
  ,
  • gave piece mind
  ,
  • gave piece of mind
  ,
  • gave piece of one mind
  ,
  • gave piece of one's mind
  ,
  • gave piece of ones mind
  ,
  • gave piece one mind
  ,
  • gave piece one's mind
  ,
  • gave piece ones mind
  ,
  • gave the dickens
  ,
  • give dickens
  ,
  • give piece mind
  ,
  • give piece of mind
  ,
  • give piece of one mind
  ,
  • give piece of one's mind
  ,
  • give piece of ones mind
  ,
  • give piece one mind
  ,
  • give piece one's mind
  ,
  • give piece ones mind
  ,
  • give the dickens
  ,
  • gives dickens
  ,
  • gives piece mind
  ,
  • gives piece of mind
  ,
  • gives piece of one mind
  ,
  • gives piece of one's mind
  ,
  • gives piece of ones mind
  ,
  • gives piece one mind
  ,
  • gives piece one's mind
  ,
  • gives piece ones mind
  ,
  • gives the dickens
  ,
  • giving dickens
  ,
  • giving piece mind
  ,
  • giving piece of mind
  ,
  • giving piece of one mind
  ,
  • giving piece of one's mind
  ,
  • giving piece of ones mind
  ,
  • giving piece one mind
  ,
  • giving piece one's mind
  ,
  • giving piece ones mind
  ,
  • giving the dickens
  ,
  • light in to
  ,
  • lighted in to
  ,
  • lighted into
  ,
  • lighting in to
  ,
  • lighting into
  ,
  • lights in to
  ,
  • lights into
  ,
  • lit in to
  ,
  • lit into
  ,
  • lower boom
  ,
  • lower the boom
  ,
  • lowered boom
  ,
  • lowered the boom
  ,
  • lowering boom
  ,
  • lowering the boom
  ,
  • lowers boom
  ,
  • lowers the boom
  ,
  • monish
  ,
  • monished
  ,
  • monishes
  ,
  • monishing
  ,
  • tick off
  ,
  • ticked off
  ,
  • ticking off
  ,
  • ticks off
  ,
  • took task
  .
  • requite
  • made amends
  ,
  • make amends
  ,
  • make good
  ,
  • makes amends
  ,
  • makes good
  ,
  • making amends
  ,
  • making good
  ,
  • paid off
  ,
  • payed off
  ,
  • paying off
  ,
  • pays off
  ,
  • re deem
  ,
  • re deemed
  ,
  • re deeming
  ,
  • re quite
  ,
  • re warded
  ,
  • re warding
  ,
  • re-deem
  ,
  • re-deeming
  ,
  • re-deems
  ,
  • re-quite
  ,
  • re-warded
  ,
  • re-warding
  ,
  • restitutioned
  .
  • retaliate
  • avenge
  ,
  • exact retribution
  ,
  • exacted retribution
  ,
  • exacting retribution
  ,
  • exacts retribution
  ,
  • gave and take
  ,
  • gave take
  ,
  • give and take
  ,
  • give take
  ,
  • gives and take
  ,
  • gives take
  ,
  • giving and take
  ,
  • giving take
  ,
  • pays back
  ,
  • retro spect
  ,
  • retro spects
  ,
  • retro-spect
  ,
  • retro-spects
  ,
  • retrospected
  ,
  • retrospecting
  ,
  • returned the compliment
  ,
  • returns the compliment
  ,
  • squaring accounts
  ,
  • strike back
  ,
  • strikes back
  ,
  • striking back
  ,
  • strook back
  ,
  • struck back
  ,
  • take an eye for an eye
  ,
  • take an eye for eye
  ,
  • take eye for an eye
  ,
  • take eye for eye
  ,
  • take revenge
  ,
  • takes an eye for an eye
  ,
  • takes an eye for eye
  ,
  • takes eye for an eye
  ,
  • takes eye for eye
  ,
  • takes revenge
  ,
  • taking an eye for an eye
  ,
  • taking an eye for eye
  ,
  • taking eye for an eye
  ,
  • taking eye for eye
  ,
  • taking revenge
  ,
  • took an eye for an eye
  ,
  • took an eye for eye
  ,
  • took eye for an eye
  ,
  • took eye for eye
  ,
  • took revenge
  ,
  • turn tables on
  ,
  • turn the tables on
  ,
  • turn up on
  ,
  • turn upon
  ,
  • turned tables on
  ,
  • turned the tables on
  ,
  • turned up on
  ,
  • turned upon
  ,
  • turning tables on
  ,
  • turning the tables on
  ,
  • turning up on
  ,
  • turning upon
  ,
  • turns tables on
  ,
  • turns the tables on
  ,
  • turns up on
  ,
  • turns upon
  ,
  • wreak vengeance
  ,
  • wreaked vengeance
  ,
  • wreaking vengeance
  ,
  • wreaks vengeance
  ,
  • wrought vengeance
  .
  • revenge
  • am out for blood
  ,
  • are out for blood
  ,
  • art out for blood
  ,
  • be out for blood
  ,
  • being out for blood
  ,
  • de fend
  ,
  • de fended
  ,
  • de fending
  ,
  • de fends
  ,
  • de-fend
  ,
  • de-fended
  ,
  • de-fending
  ,
  • de-fends
  ,
  • fix one wagon
  ,
  • fix one's wagon
  ,
  • fix ones wagon
  ,
  • fix wagon
  ,
  • fixed one wagon
  ,
  • fixed one's wagon
  ,
  • fixed ones wagon
  ,
  • fixed wagon
  ,
  • fixes one wagon
  ,
  • fixes one's wagon
  ,
  • fixes ones wagon
  ,
  • fixes wagon
  ,
  • fixing one wagon
  ,
  • fixing one's wagon
  ,
  • fixing ones wagon
  ,
  • fixing wagon
  ,
  • fixt one wagon
  ,
  • fixt one's wagon
  ,
  • fixt ones wagon
  ,
  • fixt wagon
  ,
  • gave comeuppance
  ,
  • gave just desserts
  ,
  • give comeuppance
  ,
  • give just desserts
  ,
  • gives comeuppance
  ,
  • gives just desserts
  ,
  • giving comeuppance
  ,
  • giving just desserts
  ,
  • hit back
  ,
  • hits back
  ,
  • hitting back
  ,
  • is out for blood
  ,
  • paid back in spades
  ,
  • paid back spades
  ,
  • pay back in spades
  ,
  • pay back spades
  ,
  • payed back in spades
  ,
  • payed back spades
  ,
  • paying back in spades
  ,
  • paying back spades
  ,
  • pays back in spades
  ,
  • pays back spades
  ,
  • re tort
  ,
  • re torts
  ,
  • re venge
  ,
  • re venged
  ,
  • re venges
  ,
  • re venging
  ,
  • re-tort
  ,
  • re-torts
  ,
  • re-venge
  ,
  • re-venged
  ,
  • re-venges
  ,
  • re-venging
  ,
  • settle up
  ,
  • settle with
  ,
  • settled up
  ,
  • settled with
  ,
  • settles up
  ,
  • settles with
  ,
  • settling up
  ,
  • settling with
  ,
  • sticking it to
  ,
  • was out for blood
  ,
  • wast out for blood
  ,
  • were out for blood
  ,
  • wert out for blood
  .
  • scold, discipline
  • chastise
  .
  • scourge
  • Whaling
  ,
  • horsewhipped
  ,
  • horsewhipping
  .
  • spite
  • be set
  ,
  • be sets
  ,
  • be setting
  ,
  • be-set
  ,
  • be-sets
  ,
  • be-setting
  ,
  • cramp style
  ,
  • cramped style
  ,
  • cramping style
  ,
  • cramps style
  ,
  • dis comfit
  ,
  • dis comfits
  ,
  • dis-comfit
  ,
  • dis-comfits
  ,
  • hanged up
  ,
  • hanging up
  ,
  • spite
  ,
  • upset apple cart
  ,
  • upset the apple cart
  ,
  • upsets apple cart
  ,
  • upsets the apple cart
  ,
  • upsetting apple cart
  ,
  • upsetting the apple cart
  .
  • stop blame and grant pardon
  • accuse
  ,
  • blame
  ,
  • charge
  ,
  • hold
  ,
  • increase
  ,
  • keep
  ,
  • maintain
  ,
  • sentence
  .
  • upbraid
  • gave a talking to
  ,
  • gave a talking-to
  ,
  • gave talking to
  ,
  • gave talking-to
  ,
  • gave talkingto
  ,
  • give a talking to
  ,
  • give a talking-to
  ,
  • give talking to
  ,
  • give talking-to
  ,
  • give talkingto
  ,
  • gives a talking to
  ,
  • gives a talkingto
  ,
  • gives talking-to
  ,
  • giving a talking to
  ,
  • giving a talking-to
  ,
  • giving a talkingto
  ,
  • giving talking to
  ,
  • giving talking-to
  ,
  • giving talkingto
  ,
  • laid down law
  ,
  • laid down the law
  ,
  • lay down law
  ,
  • lay down the law
  ,
  • laying down law
  ,
  • laying down the law
  ,
  • lays down law
  ,
  • up braid
  ,
  • up braided
  ,
  • up braids
  ,
  • up-braid
  ,
  • up-braided
  ,
  • up-braiding
  ,
  • up-braids
  .

• v. t.

  • noun
  • arraign
  .

• Other relevant words:

• hang up
,
• offend
,
• reproach
,
• reward
,
• satisfy
,
• transgress
.

Usage examples for Forgive

Famous quotes with Forgive

• I am much chastened and profoundly remorseful. I can only hope that the Almighty and those whom I have wronged will forgive me my trespasses.

  Jack Abramoff
• You can forgive yourself a great deal.

  Eddie Albert
• If I have committed any culinary atrocities, please forgive me.

  Ted Allen
• One of the great benefits of organised religion is that you can be forgiven your sins, which must be a wonderful thing. I mean, I carry my sins around with me, there's nobody there to forgive them.

  Kingsley Amis
• When a man laughs at his troubles he loses a great many friends. They never forgive the loss of their prerogative.

  Francis Bacon

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